市場進入絕望期?

“It’s hopeless—we don’t even have the weather in common.” by Tom Cheney

“滿街鮮血,乃是入市良機。” 這句李嘉誠的名言,在香港家喻戶曉。李超人開始買入長實,是否他覺得市場已經差不多絕望了?

Wall Street Journal的Money & Investing版今天有一篇不錯的報道Dow’s Damage: 13% in Five Days。中間提到:”Despite the declines, traders described the selloff as remarkably orderly and largely free of panicky jettisoning of big positions.”

不明白為什么連selloff都是那么和諧,不過仔細想想,Dow從去年的最高位跌到現在,跌幅“只有”33%,美國投資者如果不投資两房、AIG, LEH、WMI……(一长串名单),看看其他市場(澳大利亚、希腊、挪威、印度、香港,上海,俄羅斯……),已經可以偷笑了。當然,指數本身是具有欺騙性的,不信可以看《華爾街智商測試》中的一段:

7.道瓊斯工業平均指數是由30個大公司股票價格加權平均而得。理論上,有沒有可能所有公司都瀕臨破產,一個指數投資者已損失90%,而道瓊斯指數仍維持不變?
(A)絕不可能
(B)不太可能,除非改變指數定義
(C)不太可能,除非只有一兩家公司跌
(D)不太可能,除非將指數進行調整,將要破產的公司提前剔出
(E)完全可以做到
江平:E

道指的特殊性是其計算方法以價格加權平均。比如GE股價34美元,市值3400億美元,占指數2.3%,而IBM市值只有1600億美元,但因股價為 114 美元,權重卻有7.8%。如果GE跌90%,IBM只需上漲30%,道瓊斯指數就可維持不變,但投資者已損失近2600億美元。然後再讓IBM分股,一分為五,GE並股,三十合一。因分股並股時公司市值不變,指數不變,只改權重,GE、IBM掉個位置,如法炮制,讓IBM再跌90%,GE漲30%,投資者再挨一刀,指數仍然不變。

WSJ那篇文章末尾還特意奚落了一下所謂的“價值投資者”,很有意思,茲錄如下:

One problem dogging the stock market is that so-called value investors to a certain degree have been taken out of the game. Many of the biggest and best-known value investors wrongly bet as far back as late last year that stocks had fallen too far — especially financials — and bought shares. These fund managers are now facing withdrawals by angry investors who are suffering big losses. As a result, value managers are forced to sell, instead of sweeping in to buy beaten-down stocks.

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“It’s hopeless—we don’t even have the weather in common.” by Tom Cheney

“滿街鮮血,乃是入市良機。” 這句李嘉誠的名言,在香港家喻戶曉。李超人開始買入長實,是否他覺得市場已經差不多絕望了?

Wall Street Journal的Money & Investing版今天有一篇不錯的報道Dow’s Damage: 13% in Five Days。中間提到:”Despite the declines, traders described the selloff as remarkably orderly and largely free of panicky jettisoning of big positions.”

不明白為什么連selloff都是那么和諧,不過仔細想想,Dow從去年的最高位跌到現在,跌幅“只有”33%,美國投資者如果不投資两房、AIG, LEH、WMI……(一长串名单),看看其他市場(澳大利亚、希腊、挪威、印度、香港,上海,俄羅斯……),已經可以偷笑了。當然,指數本身是具有欺騙性的,不信可以看《華爾街智商測試》中的一段:

7.道瓊斯工業平均指數是由30個大公司股票價格加權平均而得。理論上,有沒有可能所有公司都瀕臨破產,一個指數投資者已損失90%,而道瓊斯指數仍維持不變?
(A)絕不可能
(B)不太可能,除非改變指數定義
(C)不太可能,除非只有一兩家公司跌
(D)不太可能,除非將指數進行調整,將要破產的公司提前剔出
(E)完全可以做到
江平:E

道指的特殊性是其計算方法以價格加權平均。比如GE股價34美元,市值3400億美元,占指數2.3%,而IBM市值只有1600億美元,但因股價為 114 美元,權重卻有7.8%。如果GE跌90%,IBM只需上漲30%,道瓊斯指數就可維持不變,但投資者已損失近2600億美元。然後再讓IBM分股,一分為五,GE並股,三十合一。因分股並股時公司市值不變,指數不變,只改權重,GE、IBM掉個位置,如法炮制,讓IBM再跌90%,GE漲30%,投資者再挨一刀,指數仍然不變。

WSJ那篇文章末尾還特意奚落了一下所謂的“價值投資者”,很有意思,茲錄如下:

One problem dogging the stock market is that so-called value investors to a certain degree have been taken out of the game. Many of the biggest and best-known value investors wrongly bet as far back as late last year that stocks had fallen too far — especially financials — and bought shares. These fund managers are now facing withdrawals by angry investors who are suffering big losses. As a result, value managers are forced to sell, instead of sweeping in to buy beaten-down stocks.

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“It’s hopeless—we don’t even have the weather in common.” by Tom Cheney

“滿街鮮血,乃是入市良機。” 這句李嘉誠的名言,在香港家喻戶曉。李超人開始買入長實,是否他覺得市場已經差不多絕望了?

Wall Street Journal的Money & Investing版今天有一篇不錯的報道Dow’s Damage: 13% in Five Days。中間提到:”Despite the declines, traders described the selloff as remarkably orderly and largely free of panicky jettisoning of big positions.”

不明白為什么連selloff都是那么和諧,不過仔細想想,Dow從去年的最高位跌到現在,跌幅“只有”33%,美國投資者如果不投資两房、AIG, LEH、WMI……(一长串名单),看看其他市場(澳大利亚、希腊、挪威、印度、香港,上海,俄羅斯……),已經可以偷笑了。當然,指數本身是具有欺騙性的,不信可以看《華爾街智商測試》中的一段:

7.道瓊斯工業平均指數是由30個大公司股票價格加權平均而得。理論上,有沒有可能所有公司都瀕臨破產,一個指數投資者已損失90%,而道瓊斯指數仍維持不變?
(A)絕不可能
(B)不太可能,除非改變指數定義
(C)不太可能,除非只有一兩家公司跌
(D)不太可能,除非將指數進行調整,將要破產的公司提前剔出
(E)完全可以做到
江平:E

道指的特殊性是其計算方法以價格加權平均。比如GE股價34美元,市值3400億美元,占指數2.3%,而IBM市值只有1600億美元,但因股價為 114 美元,權重卻有7.8%。如果GE跌90%,IBM只需上漲30%,道瓊斯指數就可維持不變,但投資者已損失近2600億美元。然後再讓IBM分股,一分為五,GE並股,三十合一。因分股並股時公司市值不變,指數不變,只改權重,GE、IBM掉個位置,如法炮制,讓IBM再跌90%,GE漲30%,投資者再挨一刀,指數仍然不變。

WSJ那篇文章末尾還特意奚落了一下所謂的“價值投資者”,很有意思,茲錄如下:

One problem dogging the stock market is that so-called value investors to a certain degree have been taken out of the game. Many of the biggest and best-known value investors wrongly bet as far back as late last year that stocks had fallen too far — especially financials — and bought shares. These fund managers are now facing withdrawals by angry investors who are suffering big losses. As a result, value managers are forced to sell, instead of sweeping in to buy beaten-down stocks.

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Thanks for writing this.

Start uga_in_feed Ending uga_in_feed: Start uga_track_user Start uga_get_option: ignore_users uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: ignore_users (1) Start uga_get_option: max_user_level uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: max_user_level (100) Tracking user with level Ending uga_track_user: 1 Calling preg_replace_callback: ]*?)href\s*=\s*['"](.*?)['"]([^>]*)>(.*?) Ending uga_filter:

Thanks for writing this.

Start uga_wp_footer_track: Start uga_get_tracker Start uga_in_feed Ending uga_in_feed: Start uga_track_user Start uga_get_option: ignore_users uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: ignore_users (1) Start uga_get_option: max_user_level uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: max_user_level (100) Tracking user with level Ending uga_track_user: 1 Start uga_get_option: account_id uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: account_id (UA-366599-6) Ending uga_get_tracker: Start uga_insert_html_once: footer, Footer hooked: HTML inserted: Location is FOOTER Inserting HTML End uga_insert_html Ending uga_wp_footer_track: Start uga_shutdown Start uga_in_feed Ending uga_in_feed: Start uga_track_user Start uga_get_option: ignore_users uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: ignore_users (1) Start uga_get_option: max_user_level uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: max_user_level (100) Tracking user with level Ending uga_track_user: 1 Footer hook was executed Start uga_get_option: footer_hooked uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: footer_hooked (1) Start uga_get_option: debug uga_options: array ( 'internal_domains' => 'simadu.com', 'account_id' => 'UA-366599-6', 'enable_tracker' => true, 'track_adm_pages' => true, 'ignore_users' => true, 'max_user_level' => '100', 'footer_hooked' => true, 'filter_content' => true, 'filter_comments' => true, 'filter_comment_authors' => true, 'track_ext_links' => true, 'prefix_ext_links' => '/outgoing/', 'track_files' => true, 'prefix_file_links' => '/downloads/', 'track_extensions' => 'gif,jpg,jpeg,bmp,png,pdf,mp3,wav,phps,zip,gz,tar,rar,jar,exe,pps,ppt,xls,doc', 'track_mail_links' => true, 'prefix_mail_links' => '/mailto/', 'debug' => true, 'check_updates' => true, 'version_sent' => '1.6.0', 'advanced_config' => true, ) Ending uga_get_option: debug (1) -->